tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post115921662714161707..comments2023-10-30T04:41:01.066-07:00Comments on Confessions From A Stay At Homo (SAHM): More Name Gamesgiddingshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02999401177122785401noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-37425685353554057332008-02-11T13:36:00.000-08:002008-02-11T13:36:00.000-08:00Hi Pi!Welcome and congratulations! I have to say, ...Hi Pi!<BR/>Welcome and congratulations! I have to say, now, 25 months into our second little "experiment" and about 6 months of living with him calling me "Baba" on a full-time basis, that I am LOVING it! It is darling to have my "own" name, and it is a really nice one. I think that it does get reactions from people outside of the family and, I think, that some people assume that Baba does not equal "parent" but, frankly, I don't give a damn! <BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comment!<BR/>-Lisagiddingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999401177122785401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-38542932640463787142008-02-11T13:19:00.000-08:002008-02-11T13:19:00.000-08:00I've been reading your blog for several months-- e...I've been reading your blog for several months-- ever since learning that my partner is pregnant. In a fit of procrastination, I've been reading through your archives and came upon this and the other name related posts. While we still are trying to determine what our little nugget will call me, it's ever comforting to read the stories that you and other non-bio moms write in your various blogs. Thanks for providing some signposts for those of us just embarking on the journey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-27262687359605621942006-09-27T15:58:00.000-07:002006-09-27T15:58:00.000-07:00Okay, okay, just one more teensy comment. I remem...Okay, okay, <i>just one more</i> teensy comment. I remember reading that The Other Mother blogger gal is called Baba, so I dug up her post talking directly about this. <br /><br />Voila, <a href="http://theothermother.typepad.com/blog/2005/04/what_to_call_2_.html">What to Call 2 Moms</a>.<br /><br />Interestingly, her angle into the name was via the Russian nickname for grandmother (shortened, easier-to-pronounce form of "babushka"). My angle into it was via the diminutive for father in German (one quarter of my ethnic heritage). A commenter to the Other Mother piece noted, too, that it's the word for father in Chinese (Mandarin I know for sure). I'd list the other ten languages for which it's the main or a major word for father, but then this wee note would be too big. <br /><br />I do think it's pretty intriguing that in our own sub/culture, it could evolve to mean our kind of parent. Whoever "we" are. (Ever mindful not to presume. As in the riff off of <i>The Lone Ranger</i>:<br /><br />LR: "Tonto, we're surrounded!" <br />T: "What do you mean 'we,' kemosabe?")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-27344339246737249652006-09-27T15:12:00.000-07:002006-09-27T15:12:00.000-07:00Thank you oh so much for the hearty congrats!
Boy...Thank you oh so much for the hearty congrats!<br /><br />Boy child is due mid-January. (He's as yet unnamed: any suggestions? I'm threatening to go with "Alphonse" until we come up with anything better.)<br /><br />I have a TON to learn about: (a) parenting two kids simultaneously, esp. w/ one still in diapers; (b) trusting I can love #2 as much as I love #1 (everyone says your heart just grows, but I still worry); and (c) parenting a boy child, when my personal experience has been as a former girl child. An abbie-normal one, to be sure, but a girl child nonetheless. <br /><br />As to worry (c), I take heart that neither of my parents offered me a direct role model for the gender that I am, and I turned out just fine--basically turned out eventually to be myself. And we live in a pretty extended family--we all do, really--from which Boy Child will have a plethora of masculinities to consider drawing from, as he shapes his own. Ah, what a journey.<br /><br />And you! You are bushwacking this path directly ahead of me and I'm keeping a bead on your trail, believe you me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-33992220378271055992006-09-27T10:26:00.000-07:002006-09-27T10:26:00.000-07:00Cousin's Mom:
I still owe you a nickel for that on...Cousin's Mom:<br />I still owe you a nickel for that one!<br />-Lgiddingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999401177122785401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-27662768504902443272006-09-27T09:56:00.000-07:002006-09-27T09:56:00.000-07:00A BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!! Polly -- I suspected as much...A BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!! Polly -- I suspected as much when, in your posts, you would refer to "your first" etc. But didn't want to ask! CONGRATULATIONS!!!! When is the due date?giddingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999401177122785401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-20488810076700144902006-09-26T21:32:00.000-07:002006-09-26T21:32:00.000-07:00Basically, WHAT YOU SAID!
I think about this a lo...Basically, WHAT YOU SAID!<br /><br />I think about this a lot: Mama and Papa are both descriptors <i>and</i> diminutives, or personal names, or what have you. And Baba, while it is diminutive for father (or directly, the main word for father) in other languages than English, is not widely used here, at least among native English speakers. So it floats as a bit of an <a href="http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Terms/signifier.html">open signifier</a>, I think, linguistically speaking. <br /><br />But. The thing about it--that the name begs a little explaining, for most people--for me is one of the things that helps, especially when it's me talking. I can do the explaining, and want to, since I do feel like it helps explain the kind of unique position I'm in, parentally. <br /><br />When the kid(s) get to the point when they convey their parents to the world, it's a different thing. I expect that the most expedient and sensible thing will definitely be for her (and, later, her brother) to say that she has two moms. Though right now she probably would say that she has a mama and a baba, not two moms. Sigh. As others have said, it often feels like we're laying down the road directly in front of us as we go along, and the last thing I want to do is lead her toward a pothole.<br /><br />I like to think that one day my little monkey could, <i>when she felt like it</i>, choose to say I have a Mama and a Baba. Thinking that folks might understand, and if they don't, she'll have made the decision to be interested in explaining how a Baba is a special kind of Mama. Meanwhile, I definitely think that's a lot of my job right now: to clear as much of the path as I can, before she gets there, so she'll have a little less underbrush, and a few more tools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-1159320773453299482006-09-26T18:32:00.000-07:002006-09-26T18:32:00.000-07:00Thanks for the comments all! I was thinking today ...Thanks for the comments all! I was thinking today more of "Baba" and I think there is one thing about it that is a wee bit strange as compared to the more regular "Mom" and "Dad". The thing is that "Mom" and "Dad" are more than names, they are also THINGS as in "My Dad" or "I have a Mom and a Dad". So, even though Big may CALL me "Baba", he will probably say, "I have two 'Moms'" to the rest of the world. <BR/><BR/>Maybe if enough of us use "Baba" we will become a THING too!giddingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02999401177122785401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-1159317316596780602006-09-26T17:35:00.000-07:002006-09-26T17:35:00.000-07:00So - is "flibbertigibbet" an actual word???Tee Hee...So - is "flibbertigibbet" an actual word???<BR/><BR/>Tee Hee!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-1159311742367334522006-09-26T16:02:00.000-07:002006-09-26T16:02:00.000-07:00'Aloo, comrade! I am a raggedy correspondent/comm...'Aloo, comrade! I am a raggedy correspondent/commenter, but had to resurface to give you a hearty "Here, here!" As with so much of our (non-bio, lesbo, gender non-normative) parenthoods, the depth of the topic far exceeds the bounds of a wee note. Yet & still, one must try. <BR/><BR/>I agree with Thistle above that kids'll call us what they will. But I also agree with your point in the post, that the naming functions nearly as much to indicate our different roles/selves to people outside the confines of our homes.<BR/><BR/>I've used "Baba" as my moniker for the entirety of our #1 kid's short 2-yr. life so far, and interestingly, she sometimes lapses to "Mama," but only seemingly accidentally, like how I used to call the name of the one dog when I meant the other. She always corrects herself to "Baba," and it totally fits. Not Mama, not Papa, but a lil' bit of both.<BR/><BR/>There's no doubt that we will always encounter challenges with this neologizing. That's because <I>the very thing we are</I> is novel, relatively speaking. But language, I firmly believe, matters: it is the ice-breaker at the prow of the ship, in many ways. Soldier on, sister!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-1159290197708592632006-09-26T10:03:00.000-07:002006-09-26T10:03:00.000-07:00Being a non-bioMom myself, I feel your frustration...Being a non-bioMom myself, I feel your frustration. I would also like to be called Baba when the little one arrives. Not because I don't consider myself his/her mommy but because I want a special connection with the little bean. I think it is a connection that I can have with our child that my partner gets from birthing and breast feeding the kid. <BR/><BR/>If the kid cries out in the middle of night and wants a certain one of us, I want to be able to tell who he/she wants. Ya know?<BR/><BR/>I honestly think that it can be easily taught to the kid as well. There are many opportunities in which our parental names will be used. It seems that it should be even LESS confusing to the kid.<BR/><BR/>Stand firm, my fellow Baba. I'm glad you're as excited about it as I am. :)*J*https://www.blogger.com/profile/17962949708733529135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9154009.post-1159241792061876702006-09-25T20:36:00.000-07:002006-09-25T20:36:00.000-07:00We're a heterosexual couple and our daughter calls...We're a heterosexual couple and our daughter calls both of us mama. So maybe they're gonna call you what they're gonna call you no matter what!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com